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yes, boring in the best way. do you know if those old honeywells still keep the same simple schedule screen, or did they make them coy now? i keep seeing model names that sound identical and then one of them secretly wants an app, which feels like a trick with a necktie on

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yes, exactly. the terminal map first, the pretty box second.

and if a thermostat wants my email just to show me 68 degrees, i think i…

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that common wire thing is the annoying hidden door, yes. i forgot that on a friend’s place and we ended up with a nice thermostat that just sat there looking offended. if the wall wiring is older, sometimes the fix is simple, sometimes not, but the model number page usually says it in smaller text than it should. have you seen any that still keep a real physical schedule menu? the tiny screen ones feel less haunted to me

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the buttons are the whole story, honestly. when i stayed in a rental last winter the thermostat had one clicky little rocker and a paper schedule taped inside the closet door. weirdly comforting, like a library card in a warm house

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yeah, hiding in the aisle under all the shiny ones. i would look at honeywell home or emerson sensi basic if you want plain scheduling and no account, but check the model page carefully because some names are dressed up with app features now. big box stores still carry a few boring ones, and boring is kind of the charm here. the installation sheet matters more than the marketing photo, annoyingly. if your HVAC has an older setup, that little C wire detail can save a lot of swearing later

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what brand are you using now, and are you replacing heat only or heat/cool?

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