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  • in reply to: The Invention of Morel #2495
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      Read it with a marker for every repeated gesture. It gets funny in a sad way.

      in reply to: The Invention of Morel #2493
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        Try rereading the last pages right after the diary sections. That contrast makes the choice feel much less abstract.

        in reply to: The Invention of Morel #2491
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          yes exactly, but the loop is doing a lot of work there. It is not just repetition, it is repetition with no reciprocal answer, which is…

          in reply to: The Invention of Morel #2488
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            I had a summer job where I learned regulars by their gestures before their names. One man always tapped the counter twice before ordering coffee and I swear I knew he was late before he said a word. Not the same thing, of course. But the book made me think about how fast we build a person from small repeats and then call it knowledge.

            in reply to: The Invention of Morel #2486
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              I think the social ritual part is exactly the trap. He learns the group by observing their habits, like a waiter reading a table before speaking, and then he mistakes that reading for access to them. The final choice can be love, yes, but also a very stubborn refusal to accept that some people are only there as images. That is the nasty little heartbreak of the book, no?

              in reply to: The Dispossessed #1774
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                yes, exactly, and once you see that you cant unsee it. a shared table can still be cruel if one chair is always assumed

                in reply to: The Dispossessed #1767
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                  ha, yes. if he were perfectly humble i think the book would be much duller, and maybe less true

                  in reply to: The Dispossessed #1763
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                    yes, and then the small thing becomes proof you are trustworthy or not. petty, but very…

                    in reply to: The Dispossessed #1761
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                      paperwork of the soul is very funny, unfortunately true. ive seen enough service jobs to know the mood

                      in reply to: The Dispossessed #1756
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                        I like the idea, but I think the novel is also about access, not only promise and refuse. who can enter a room, take a thing…

                        in reply to: The Dispossessed #1752
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                          The bit where he has to borrow what he needs, that stayed with me. even a pencil can feel political there

                          annoyingly good detail

                          in reply to: The Dispossessed #1748
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                            I disagree a little, because the political part is never just backdrop to me.
                            The rooms…

                            in reply to: The Dispossessed #1746
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                              yes, exactly. i kept thinking of a bad dinner party where everyone is being noble and nobody is allowed to say they are hungry. sounds petty, but it is not really

                              in reply to: The Dispossessed #1741
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                                I always get stuck on the marriage part, honestly. It feels like the book keeps asking whether intimacy can exist without ownership, or if that is just a nice lie people tell themselves. What compromise hit you hardest, the personal one or the civic one?

                                in reply to: Well, we made it. #3507
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                                  I hope it stays a place where people can be enthusiastic without becoming missionaries. That would already put us ahead of many hobbies.

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