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August 2, 2026 at 1:15 am #5278Question or objective: rich aged-white-tea character without stove simmering
Tea category: aged white tea
Exact product: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei
Vendor: Lotus Hill Tea
Origin: Fuding, Fujian
Cultivar, if known: Da Bai
Harvest season/year: 2018
Processing or roast: sun-withered, compressed then aged
Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-05-10; opened 2026-07-22
Storage since purchase: sealed original pouch inside a dark cupboard
Style: thermos
Vessel: 500 ml stainless thermos
Vessel material: stainless steel
Nominal and actual filled capacity: 500 ml nominal / 450 ml filled
Filter or strainer: none
Kettle: stovetop kettle + thermometer
Vessel preheated: yes
Dry leaf weight: 5.0 g
Water volume: 450 ml
Water temperature: 98°C
Water source or mineral profile: filtered tap water, 70 ppm
Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
Infusion schedule: 45 minutes sealed
Agitation: none
Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
Aroma: dates and old wood
Sweetness: high
Bitterness: none
Astringency: low
Body/texture: thick
Flavour: date, cedar, honey
Aftertaste: warm and long
Number of satisfying infusions: 1 long brew
Exact problem: wanted a workday method with no active steep timing
Desired result: rich aged-white-tea character without stove simmering
Variable changed: time
Previous value: 90 min
New value: 45 min
Result: less woody and more fruit
Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevantThis is the first version of this recipe I have repeated enough times to stop calling it an accident. The useful change was time: 90 min to 45 min. less woody and more fruit.
I am posting the taste result as well as the instructions because a recipe that only says what to do is half a recipe. If you try it, please say what changed in the cup rather than just whether you liked it.
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August 2, 2026 at 2:35 am #5279
Same tea/batch
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 45 min.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: firsthand use of the same Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei in a closely matched setup.
Change: repeat the session with 45 min.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward rich aged-white-tea character without stove simmering if that variable is causal.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none.-
August 2, 2026 at 7:13 am #5282
Comparable tea
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 45 min.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable aged white tea with similar parameters.
Change: repeat the session with 45 min.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward rich aged-white-tea character without stove simmering if that variable is causal.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none.
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August 2, 2026 at 4:24 am #5280
Controlled test
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
Commercial relationship: none. -
August 2, 2026 at 5:47 am #5281
Long-term report
Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
Observed result: less woody and more fruit.
Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
Commercial relationship: none. -
August 2, 2026 at 7:52 am #5283
Inference
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
Commercial relationship: none. -
August 2, 2026 at 9:40 am #5284
Original-poster update
Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei.
Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
Observed result: less woody and more fruit.
Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
Commercial relationship: none. -
August 2, 2026 at 11:25 am #5285
Controlled test
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 45 min.
Applies to: Old Orchard 2018 Shou Mei / aged white tea in a setup close to 500 ml stainless thermos.
Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
Change: repeat the session with 45 min.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward rich aged-white-tea character without stove simmering if that variable is causal.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
Commercial relationship: none.
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