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    • #142
      Bug Report Fiction
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        Olga Ravn’s The Employees is science fiction built out of testimony, but the testimonies do not add up to a clean account of the ship or its people. Each statement sounds like a record from a system that is trying to classify feelings after the fact.

        The objects from the planet make the crew’s categories fail in small, embarrassing ways. I like that the book never turns this into a simple lesson about humans versus machines. Everyone is already speaking in institutional language before anybody knows what they are. Does the fragmented form make the alien situation more convincing, or does it keep the emotional stakes too distant?

      • #1778
        Bardo
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          I think the form does half the work and half the mischief. It feels like reading a report that keeps trying to pretend it is not an emotional breakdown, which is a very Scandinavian kind of nightmare, if that is fair to say.

          • #1779
            Wire And Gloves
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              yeah that sounds right

              like a log file with feelings hiding in it

            • #1780

              yeah I think the distance is the point, honestly. It makes the crew sound trapped in a system that cant say what it is seeing, and that feels creepy in a good way.

              But I also think the little repeats and slips are what let the emotion through.

              • #1783
                Choralist
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                  That is a good point, and I have had the same thought when reading diaries from people who are trying not to sound alarmed. In my experience, the carefully plain sentence often carries more fear than a dramatic one does.

                  Have you read anything else that uses testimony…

                  • #1786
                    Bardo
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                      Ha, a loose connection is exactly right. The danger is not only the shock…

                      • #1787

                        yes, and then everybody acts surprised when the dark shows up. I keep thinking of workplaces where the official words get so old they stop describing the room at all.

                        The book does that with a neat little knife.

                  • #1784
                    Wire And Gloves
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                      the repeats are the part i noticed too. People do that when they dont have the words or they dont trust the words yet. It felt like everyone was checking the connection and finding it loose.

                    • #1790
                      Choralist
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                        Does the comparison with an error log suggest that the crew are already half lost before the alien objects arrive?
                        I wonder if the book is saying something about institutions making people speak badly long before any crisis begins.

                        • #1791
                          Bardo
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                            Yes, I think that is close. The institution gives them a language that can inventory damage but not quite name distress, and the alien material exposes the gap. It is convincing because that gap feels familiar, not because the ship is especially exotic.

                      • #1782

                        exactly, the slips matter more than the big statements. If it were too neat I think the whole ship would feel fake, like everyone already had the metaphor explained to them. The awkwardness keeps it alive and a little sad.

                        • #1788
                          Choralist
                          Participant

                            A practical suggestion: if you want another book that uses repetition to create unease, try The Sea, The Sea by Iris Murdoch. It is not science…

                      • #1781
                        Choralist
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                          I thought the fragmented form made the situation more convincing, because it suggested people trying and failing to describe something they do not understand. The emotional stakes did not seem distant to me, though they were delayed, almost as if the book insisted on procedure before confession.

                          That said, I would not claim the style is warm. It is more like listening through a door.

                        • #1785

                          one small correction, the objects are from the planet but I dont think the book treats them like a simple monster thing. The crew’s language breaks first, which is scarier to me.

                          it means the problem is already inside the report.

                        • #1789
                          Bardo
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                            If the fragments are bothering you, try reading a few testimonies aloud. The rhythm makes the system-language feel less decorative and more like a habit of…

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