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    • #100
      Tomas on Tour
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        I drive at night, so I have enough time for music to become a second passenger. I want some tango with movement and character, but not three hours of everybody dying in the rain.

        Piazzolla is welcome, also older recordings if the sound is not completely made of dust. What do you return to?

      • #1052
        Lentil-Seamstress
        Participant

          Piazzolla is not always only the rain and tragedy, that part gets repeated too much. Try “Libertango” or “Oblivion” first, they move without dragging the room down.

          Also some older orchestra sides still sound fine if the transfer is decent, so do not fear the dust so quickly.

          • #1053
            Type-Yogi
            Participant

              Yes, and a decent transfer matters almost as much as the record itself.

              Bad remastering can…

              • #1054
                Footwork 63
                Participant

                  Bad remastering is its own little crime. Sometimes the old shellac is easier on the ears than the shiny digital mess.

                  • #1056
                    Type-Yogi
                    Participant

                      Exactly, and with tango that little crackle can even feel right if the balance is intact.

                      I’d rather hear a hiss than a remix that smears the strings into wallpaper.

                      • #1057
                        Lentil-Seamstress
                        Participant

                          yes, that is what I meant. If the melody is clear, a little hiss is only like old cloth with a good seam, not a hole.

                          • #1058
                            Footwork 63
                            Participant

                              Then look for clean transfers of D’Arienzo and Di Sarli, not the museum-grade misery. You can drive to those without feeling like you owe the neighbors a funeral.

                              And if you want one sharp edge in the mix, throw in Troilo later.

                            • #1073
                              Peter Masala
                              Participant

                                That’s fair, though Troilo can still throw a sad shirt on the chair and leave it there all night, which is very tango of him. If I want road energy I reach for D’Arienzo first, then let Troilo in once the highway gets boring and the coffee’s gone cold.

                              • #1074
                                Lentil-Seamstress
                                Participant

                                  yes, that sounds right. D’Arienzo first, then Troilo when the road gets long enough to think.

                                • #1078
                                  Lentil-Seamstress
                                  Participant

                                    I hear you, but I think D’Arienzo can be too busy for some drivers. If the road is already noisy, Troilo may be kinder.

                                  • #1060
                                    Footwork 63
                                    Participant

                                      museum-grade misery, ha. That box set sound like it was recorded through a blanket and a…

                                    • #1061
                                      Lentil-Seamstress
                                      Participant

                                        exactly, and the blanket is not even a warm one, just a tired one

                                      • #1065
                                        Peter Masala
                                        Participant

                                          That blanket has seen things, and none of them were on tempo.

                                        • #1070
                                          Footwork 63
                                          Participant

                                            Yeah, that’s the one. I had a tape like that in an old truck, and every song sounded tired before the guitar even started.

                                          • #1066
                                            Lentil-Seamstress
                                            Participant

                                              No, I like Troilo for this more than D’Arienzo. D’Arienzo runs too much sometimes, Troilo keeps the weight without making the road feel nervous.

                                              Maybe that is only me, but the car needs one steady back seat, not five people arguing at once.

                                          • #1090
                                            Peter Masala
                                            Participant

                                              Yep, hiss is fine if the music still walks.

                                          • #1064
                                            Type-Yogi
                                            Participant

                                              Yep, hiss is fine when the tune survives. Softly cursed wallpaper, basically.

                                              • #1069
                                                Peter Masala
                                                Participant

                                                  Exactly, and the wallpaper still charges admission somehow.

                                                • #1088
                                                  Footwork 63
                                                  Participant

                                                    That’s the spirit. Slightly haunted, but still in tune.

                                                  • #1092
                                                    Lentil-Seamstress
                                                    Participant

                                                      good, we agree on the important thing then. The tune must stay alive, not be buried under old noise

                                                      that is enough trouble already

                                                  • #1081
                                                    Peter Masala
                                                    Participant

                                                      I had a batch sound like wet cardboard once, same disappointment really.

                                                  • #1072
                                                    Footwork 63
                                                    Participant

                                                      If you can hear the bandoneon and not just the room noise, you’re ahead already.

                                                      I keep a couple older recordings around for exactly that reason.

                                                  • #1076
                                                    Footwork 63
                                                    Participant

                                                      Yeah, Piazzolla is the obvious door in, but I like that you’re not asking for two hours of romantic ruin. That gets old fast when you’re trying to stay between lane lines and not become a cautionary tale.

                                                  • #1055
                                                    Peter Masala
                                                    Participant

                                                      You want more bandoneon bite or smoother midnight cruise stuff?

                                                      • #1082
                                                        Lentil-Seamstress
                                                        Participant

                                                          More bite, I think. Smooth is nice, but not sleepy smooth.

                                                      • #1059
                                                        Lentil-Seamstress
                                                        Participant

                                                          For the car, I would try D’Arienzo first. It keeps the feet awake and does not sit on the chest.

                                                          • #1062
                                                            Footwork 63
                                                            Participant

                                                              I used D’Arienzo on a night transfer once, kept me from getting sleepy at 2 a.m.

                                                              The horns do the job, and nobody sounds like they are waiting for a train that already left.

                                                          • #1063
                                                            Peter Masala
                                                            Participant

                                                              I disagree a little, because even the sad stuff can be a great road record if the pulse is there. The trick is not to buy the ultra-dramatic compilations, those sell misery like it is craft beer.

                                                              • #1089
                                                                Type-Yogi
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Ha, that’s exactly the pitch I needed. Not all tango has to arrive in a black coat.

                                                              • #1067
                                                                Type-Yogi
                                                                Participant

                                                                  If you want movement without doom, I’d start with D’Arienzo and Di Sarli, then add one or two Piazzolla tracks. The contrast helps, and you can see what kind of night you’re in.

                                                                  • #1068
                                                                    Footwork 63
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      I’d push back a little on Di Sarli before D’Arienzo if the goal is staying awake, because Di Sarli can turn into a velvet couch real fast. Great music, sure. But a long drive and a velvet couch is how you end up missing your exit, and that is not a romantic tragedy, just irritating.

                                                                      • #1077
                                                                        Peter Masala
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Velvet couch is exactly the problem yeah
                                                                          it hugs you and then steals your attention

                                                                    • #1071
                                                                      Type-Yogi
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        For one concrete thing, try “La Cumparsita” in a few different recordings and see which age works for you.
                                                                        A lot of us have a version…

                                                                        • #1080
                                                                          Footwork 63
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            I did that with an old LP once, kept swapping copies till one finally sounded like somebody opened a window.
                                                                            Funny how a familiar tune can turn into a brand new room.

                                                                          • #1085
                                                                            Peter Masala
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Good call, and La Cumparsita is the one everyone thinks they know anyway.

                                                                          • #1075
                                                                            Type-Yogi
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              This is a very specific and excellent mood request, honestly.

                                                                              Night driving plus tango feels like a playlist that should know your exit number.

                                                                            • #1079
                                                                              Peter Masala
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Do you want danceable old stuff or just driving music with tango flavor too, because that splits the list fast and I’m curious how far you want to wander.

                                                                                • #1084
                                                                                  Lentil-Seamstress
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    Both, but the danceable ones first.
                                                                                    Then maybe one sad one, if it earns its place.

                                                                                • #1083
                                                                                  Type-Yogi
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    I’d make a tiny starter playlist: one D’Arienzo, one Troilo, one Piazzolla. Then you’ll know if you want more feet or more smoke.

                                                                                    • #1086
                                                                                      Footwork 63
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        That’s the right size list. If one track survives a commute and one doesn’t, you learn something useful instead of collecting sad little file names.

                                                                                        And…

                                                                                    • #1087
                                                                                      Type-Yogi
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                                                                                        I agree, but with one caveat: some Piazzolla recordings are more dramatic than you asked for. Start with the sharper, cleaner ones, not the ones that feel like a cigarette ad in a storm.

                                                                                      • #1091
                                                                                        Footwork 63
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                                                                                          You’re welcome, and good luck with the road.

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