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    • #153

      I put on Oum Kalthoum’s Enta Omri after closing one night because I wanted something with room in it, and the people still cleaning glasses stopped talking for a minute. Not because everybody understood the lyrics. The voice, the orchestra and the long return of the melody made the room behave differently.

      I know enough to be impressed and not enough to explain the maqam properly, so I am interested in what other people hear in the performance. Is the power mostly in the voice, the pacing, the arrangement, or the way the song keeps delaying the emotional arrival? I would take more Arab, Turkish or Egyptian recordings that have this kind of patient gravity.

    • #813
      Dhrupad Notes
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        I would put less weight on the voice alone. The orchestra and the pacing do a great deal of the work, and the repeated returns are what create that strange pressure, not just the singer’s authority. The delay is the spell, really.

        • #814
          Quiet-Editor
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            Not quite the singer’s authority? I think that still matters, but yes the arrangement carries the…

            • #818
              Moisture 2000
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                sure, but if the singer were flat the whole thing would wobble fast

                that’s the engine in there, not just decoration.

                • #819
                  Dhrupad Notes
                  Participant

                    yes, and i think that is why live recordings matter so much here. the voice has to keep the long line alive while the ensemble stays patient, which is harder than it sounds. if you want another one in that mode, check Umm Kulthum’s Al Atlal or Munir Bashir’s oud pieces for a different kind of gravity.

              • #815
                Moisture 2000
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                  yeah, the band can slow a room down too, not just the voice, and that’s the…

                  • #821
                    Dhrupad Notes
                    Participant

                      exactly, and that is the useful correction here. the voice is not separate from the arrangement in this repertory; it rides the instrumental patience and is…

                  • #817
                    Safety 81
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                      The pacing is the key detail. Without it, the repetition would just be repetition.

                  • #816
                    Probability Paper
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                      The room behaved differently, yes.
                      That is usually the point of a good record.

                    • #820
                      Probability Paper
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                        The “room in it” phrase is apt, though it is really a matter of temporal spacing.
                        A short song can also empty a room if…

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