My roasted oolong progression stopped being random

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    • #5296
      Okra
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        Question or objective: repeatable progression for one gaiwan
        Tea category: roasted oolong
        Exact product: Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian
        Vendor: Red Pine Tea
        Origin: Wuyishan, Fujian
        Cultivar, if known: Shui Xian
        Harvest season/year: spring 2025
        Processing or roast: medium roast
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-05-07; opened 2026-07-23
        Storage since purchase: sealed original pouch inside a dark cupboard
        Style: gongfu
        Vessel: porcelain gaiwan
        Vessel material: porcelain
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 100 ml nominal / 90 ml filled
        Filter or strainer: lid gap
        Kettle: basic variable-temperature kettle
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: 6.5 g
        Water volume: 90 ml
        Water temperature: 95°C
        Water source or mineral profile: filtered tap water, 65 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 8/10/15/22/35/55 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
        Aroma: roast, plum, mineral
        Sweetness: medium
        Bitterness: low
        Astringency: medium
        Body/texture: full
        Flavour: plum, toast, mineral
        Aftertaste: long mineral sweet
        Number of satisfying infusions: 7
        Exact problem: previous steep progression jumped around too much
        Desired result: repeatable progression for one gaiwan
        Variable changed: time progression
        Previous value: 10/20/20/40/60
        New value: 8/10/15/22/35/55
        Result: more even change between cups
        Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        this is the first version of this recipe I have repeated enough times to stop calling it an accident. The useful change was time progression: 10/20/20/40/60 to 8/10/15/22/35/55. more even change between cups.

        I am posting the taste result as well as the instructions because a recipe that only says what to do is half a recipe. If you try it, please say what changed in the cup rather than just whether you liked it.

      • #5297
        Lentil Asana
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          Same tea/batch
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 8/10/15/22/35/55.
          Applies to: Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
          Evidence: firsthand use of the same Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian in a closely matched setup.
          Change: repeat the session with 8/10/15/22/35/55.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward repeatable progression for one gaiwan if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
          Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
          Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5298
            Okra
            Participant

              Controlled test
              Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
              Applies to: Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
              Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
              Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
              Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
              Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
              Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5299
            Lentil Asana
            Participant

              Long-term report
              Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Applies to: Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
              Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
              Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
              Observed result: more even change between cups.
              Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
              Commercial relationship: none.

            • #5300
              Okra
              Participant

                Comparable tea
                Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 8/10/15/22/35/55.
                Applies to: Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
                Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable roasted oolong with similar parameters.
                Change: repeat the session with 8/10/15/22/35/55.
                Expected effect: the cup should move toward repeatable progression for one gaiwan if that variable is causal.
                Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5301
                Lentil Asana
                Participant

                  Inference
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Applies to: Copper Cliff 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
                  Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
                  Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

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