Music for working that doesn’t eventually become distracting?

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    • #59
      Type-Yogi
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        I keep making “focus” playlists and then, three days later, I know every transition and start waiting for songs instead of working.

        What do you use when you need sound but don’t want the sound to become the main event? Instrumental is fine. Electronic is fine. Please no twelve-hour rain recording unless the rain is unusually talented.

      • #60
        SixString74
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          instrumental metal 😎 no lyrics so technically focus music

          This may be terrible advice for normal people.

          • #61
            Type-Yogi
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              “Technically focus music” is doing heroic work in that sentence.

              I will try it once, but if I accidentally redesign the entire project in black and red I am blaming you.

              • #62
                SixString74
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                  deal 😂 if productivity goes up I take credit also

            • #143
              Bug Report Fiction
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                Jan Garbarek with the Hilliard Ensemble, on Officium, may fit if the office can tolerate voices that make the room feel larger. It is built from early-music material and an ECM recording space, so the texture is present without becoming a conventional focus beat.

                It is not neutral background, exactly. The room will probably start listening back.

              • #2533
                Tai Chi Tiffin
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                  I would not use playlists at all for this. Once you know the sequence, the brain starts waiting for its favourite bit, and then the work is gone, lah.

                  A plain internet radio stream or one long ambient album is better, especially if the track lengths are unfamiliar.

                  • #2534
                    Wok And Masala
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                      yeah, exactly. i tried a lo-fi mix last month and by day four i was basically timing the drums like a snare chef.

                      ended up with some old tabla loops and that weirdly helped more, no big drops to salivate over

                      • #2539
                        Quiet Chaplain
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                          That image is doing a lot of work there, and I suspect the drums know it.

                          Table of contents for the ears, basically. Very efficient, until the workday becomes a rehearsal.

                        • #2542
                          Quiet Stacks
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                            Tabla loops are a sensible choice.

                            They can sit in the background until they suddenly become…

                            • #2549
                              Wok And Masala
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                                lol yes, exactly. one minute youre chopping onions, next minute you’re like wait is that my favourite tabla fill
                                then it’s game over

                          • #2535
                            Quiet Chaplain
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                              That seems right to me.

                              The unfamiliarity is the useful part, not the genre label.

                            • #2537
                              Wok And Masala
                              Participant

                                same here, i burned out on one “study” playlist fast.

                                a dumb office radio station fixed it better than anything

                                • #2545
                                  Quiet Stacks
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                                    A dumb office radio station is a very fair benchmark.
                                    Somehow the music you are not supposed to notice is often the most useful.

                                    • #2547
                                      Wok And Masala
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                                        right? the less it tries to be special the better.
                                        my best one was literally a talk radio station in spanish, no clue what they were arguing about but it kept moving

                                • #105
                                  Roomtone
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                                    If this is for an office, avoid tracks with a lot of sub-bass or very wide stereo if the speakers are bad. The room will turn good groove into a smear.

                                    Fela is excellent, but the volume and the room still get a vote.

                                  • #97
                                    Afrobeat
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                                      See, this is why I have stopped trusting playlists called focus. By day three I am waiting for my favourite song like it owes me money.

                                      For work I use music with a steady groove and not too many dramatic changes. If the song starts making me feel like the main character, it has failed the assignment 😂

                                    • #232
                                      Phish-Fiction
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                                        Try The Köln Concert if you can work with music that is structured without sounding repetitive. The performance keeps developing a small vocabulary instead of hiding behind a playlist label.

                                        It is not background in the strict sense. The piano will eventually file a ticket about being ignored.

                                      • #2536
                                        Quiet Stacks
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                                          I have better luck with music that does not announce itself as “focus” music in the first place. Old modal jazz, some string quartets, even a quiet soundtrack if it is not too famous. The familiar pieces become bookmarks, which is exactly the problem you described.

                                          • #2538
                                            Tai Chi Tiffin
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                                              Yes, that is a fair point. Labelled focus music often invites people to treat it as a tool and then as a habit, which is when…

                                            • #2543
                                              Tai Chi Tiffin
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                                                The soundtrack idea is sensible, provided it is not one you can recognise immediately. I have had better results with pieces that are slightly repetitive and not too dramatic. If the music starts behaving like an event, it has already failed the job.

                                            • #116
                                              Record-Courier
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                                                For working I would try The Hangman’s Beautiful Daughter by the Incredible String Band, but only if the office can tolerate a song that sounds like it found a strange door in the wall. It has movement without the clean motivational shape of a focus playlist.

                                                If that is too much, ECM piano is safer. Less chance of accidentally believing you are a wizard in a warehouse.

                                              • #91
                                                Arcade-Afterdark
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                                                  I use game soundtracks sometimes. They are made to keep going without all attention, maybe.

                                                  Old puzzle game music is good for stocking shelves. No lyrics, and not too quiet… usually 🙂

                                                • #189
                                                  Databard
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                                                    Anouar Brahem’s Le Pas du Chat Noir is worth trying if the room needs a steady surface without a corporate “focus” mood. It is an ECM recording, but the oud, piano and accordion leave enough negative space that the arrangement does not flatten into wallpaper.

                                                    It may still become the favorite track by day three. That is a data problem, not a playlist problem.

                                                  • #235

                                                    Soft Machine’s Third works for me when I need to stay awake, but it is definitely not background music in the normal way. The long bits keep changing shape and then I realize I’ve been doing the same task for an hour. I guess that is a recommendation? Maybe don’t start with it if you have to count inventory.

                                                  • #2540
                                                    Tai Chi Tiffin
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                                                      One small correction: the problem is often not the playlist itself, but repetition. Even instrumental music can become distracting if the same cues keep returning. I would try longer pieces, live recordings, or something with no obvious hook. A little boring is not a defect in this case.

                                                      • #2541
                                                        Wok And Masala
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                                                          do you ever use nature sounds that arent rain? i did train station ambience once and it was oddly steady
                                                          kind of like a neutral kitchen line, nobody wants to solo over that

                                                          • #2546
                                                            Tai Chi Tiffin
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                                                              Usually yes. Brown noise, fan noise, or very soft crowd ambience can be less…

                                                        • #203
                                                          Warehouse Groove
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                                                            Try Traffic, John Barleycorn Must Die. It has groove but it is not trying to make you feel like a superhero at work. Good for driving too.

                                                            I still might wait for the favorite song by day three lol

                                                          • #2544
                                                            Wok And Masala
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                                                              nah i think playlists are fine if you keep remixing them

                                                              • #2550
                                                                Quiet Stacks
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                                                                  Remixing helps if you are willing to do the maintenance. I am not sure I would trust myself to keep tinkering forever, which is probably why the radio still wins.

                                                              • #177
                                                                Civic-Afterhours
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                                                                  Alice Coltrane’s Journey in Satchidananda might work for early prep if the room can handle something more spacious than background jazz. The tanpura and the harp give it a devotional pull, but the rhythm keeps it from becoming sleepy.

                                                                  It is not neutral kitchen music. The dough may acquire a political program.

                                                                • #101
                                                                  Tomas on Tour
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                                                                    Try slow instrumental tango if you can work with the occasional dramatic violin. It has a pulse but does not ask you to sing along, unless you are secretly a better worker than me.

                                                                  • #2548
                                                                    Quiet Chaplain
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                                                                      Have you tried ambient pieces with almost no melody, or do those drift too far into…

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