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September 1, 2026 at 8:37 am #5497Question or objective: determine whether to isolate/discard the cake
Tea category: puer storage diagnosis
Exact product: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake
Vendor: Cloudstep Tea
Origin: Menghai, Yunnan
Cultivar, if known: assamica blend
Harvest season/year: 2016-2017
Processing or roast: ripe puer cake
Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-06-14; opened 2026-08-24
Storage since purchase: as described in the storage experiment below; temperature/RH logged where relevant
Style: gongfu
Vessel: 100 ml porcelain gaiwan
Vessel material: porcelain
Nominal and actual filled capacity: 90 ml filled
Filter or strainer: lid gap
Kettle: gooseneck variable-temperature kettle
Vessel preheated: yes
Dry leaf weight: 6 g
Water volume: 90 ml
Water temperature: 99°C
Water source or mineral profile: filtered tap water, 60 ppm
Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
Infusion schedule: 10 s rinse, 15/20/30 s
Agitation: none
Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
Aroma: warehouse and cocoa
Sweetness: medium
Bitterness: none
Astringency: low
Body/texture: thick
Flavour: cocoa, wood
Aftertaste: short
Number of satisfying infusions: 6
Exact problem: white specks and musty storage aroma after humid summer
Desired result: determine whether to isolate/discard the cake
Variable changed: airing
Previous value: sealed bag
New value: 48 hours dry airing
Result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged
Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
Liquor photograph: not attached yet
Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevantthis is a dated storage note rather than a declaration that I have solved aging. The comparison is airing: sealed bag versus 48 hours dry airing. musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Climate and measurement matter here. If your storage is in a different humidity range, please label it. Failure reports are useful too; I would rather know what went wrong than build a shrine to survivorship bias.
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September 1, 2026 at 10:06 am #5498
Long-term report
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: measured storage in a similar climate.
Change: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward determine whether to isolate/discard the cake if that variable is causal.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none.-
September 1, 2026 at 5:16 pm #5504
Controlled test
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
Change: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward determine whether to isolate/discard the cake if that variable is causal.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
Commercial relationship: none.
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September 1, 2026 at 11:31 am #5499
Long-term report
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
Commercial relationship: none.-
September 1, 2026 at 12:40 pm #5500
Controlled test
Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
Commercial relationship: none.-
September 1, 2026 at 8:26 pm #5506
Original-poster update
Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake.
Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
Commercial relationship: none.
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September 1, 2026 at 2:16 pm #5501
Comparable tea
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable puer storage diagnosis with similar parameters.
Change: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward determine whether to isolate/discard the cake if that variable is causal.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 1, 2026 at 3:37 pm #5502
Inference
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 1, 2026 at 4:20 pm #5503
please continue, this is exactly the kind of nonsense i like reading while my own tea oversteeps
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September 1, 2026 at 7:00 pm #5505
Inference
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
Commercial relationship: none.-
September 1, 2026 at 9:17 pm #5507
Long-term report
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
Change: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward determine whether to isolate/discard the cake if that variable is causal.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none.
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September 1, 2026 at 10:01 pm #5508
Original-poster update
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 1, 2026 at 11:39 pm #5509
Original-poster update
Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake.
Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 2, 2026 at 12:18 am #5510
Long-term report
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: measured storage in a similar climate.
Change: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward determine whether to isolate/discard the cake if that variable is causal.
Observed result: musty aroma reduced but white specks unchanged.
Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 2, 2026 at 1:00 am #5511
Controlled test
Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 2, 2026 at 1:35 am #5512
Comparable tea
Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable puer storage diagnosis with similar parameters.
Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
Commercial relationship: none. -
September 2, 2026 at 2:16 am #5513
Comparable tea
Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Applies to: Warehouse Moon 2017 shou cake / puer storage diagnosis in a setup close to 100 ml porcelain gaiwan.
Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable puer storage diagnosis with similar parameters.
Change: repeat the session with 48 hours dry airing.
Expected effect: the cup should move toward determine whether to isolate/discard the cake if that variable is causal.
Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
Commercial relationship: none.
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