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July 20, 2026 at 1:15 am #4110Machine / revision: Flair 58+ 2025
Country / voltage: United States / 120V
Grinder / burrs / setting / calibration: Timemore Sculptor 064S; stock 64 mm flat burrs; 4 on the espresso range; zero point checked cold.
Basket / portafilter: stock double basket; bottomless portafilter (58 mm system where applicable).
Bean / roast date: Guatemala Huehuetenango medium roast; roast date 2026-07-12.
Dose / yield / extraction time: 18.0 g in, 40 g out, 31 s target/current reference.
Water / temperature: bottled low-mineral water, about 55 ppm TDS; 93°C.
Exact symptom: I am deciding whether this grinder is a sensible match for the machine and roast/workflow rather than just technically capable.
Tests already performed: Compared dose workflow, noise, retention, adjustment style, local price and the current grinder’s limits.
Diagnostic photograph or video: counter-space photo plus a 20-second workflow clip.I can already hear the answer “spend more on the grinder,” but I would like somebody to put a ceiling on that sentence. This is for the Flair 58+ 2025, not a café.
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July 20, 2026 at 4:13 am #4111
The Timemore Sculptor 064S makes sense if you value repeatable adjustment and can live with its workflow. I would not buy it just because the burr size is easier to brag about.
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July 20, 2026 at 6:20 am #4112
The Timemore Sculptor 064S looks innocent but I have seen this movie before.
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July 20, 2026 at 10:17 am #4114
Keep some budget for a scale and decent basket before treating the Timemore Sculptor 064S as the only variable.
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July 20, 2026 at 11:49 am #4115
Please stop posting clean drip trays. Some of us are trying to live honestly
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July 20, 2026 at 2:15 pm #4116
Please stop posting clean drip trays. Some of us are trying to live honestly
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July 21, 2026 at 12:49 am #4121
Keep some budget for a scale and decent basket before treating the Timemore Sculptor 064S as the only variable.
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July 20, 2026 at 8:38 am #4113
If you mostly drink medium-dark espresso, do not let light-roast internet turn the grinder choice into a laboratory grant.
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July 20, 2026 at 4:16 pm #4117
i have nothing useful except sympathy and a strong suspicion the machine can smell fear.
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July 20, 2026 at 6:37 pm #4118
For the Flair 58+ 2025, the useful question is whether you single-dose, switch beans and care about noise. Those differences will show up more often than tiny cup differences.
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July 21, 2026 at 1:57 am #4122
My technical contribution is that “one last upgrade” is not a measurable quantity.
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July 20, 2026 at 7:43 pm #4119
Keep some budget for a scale and decent basket before treating the Timemore Sculptor 064S as the only variable.
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July 21, 2026 at 10:15 am #4125
For the Flair 58+ 2025, the useful question is whether you single-dose, switch beans and care about noise. Those differences will show up more often than tiny cup differences.
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July 20, 2026 at 10:17 pm #4120
The Timemore Sculptor 064S makes sense if you value repeatable adjustment and can live with its workflow. I would not buy it just because the burr size is easier to brag about.
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July 21, 2026 at 5:00 am #4123
I used a cheaper grinder first and the upgrade was obvious mostly in repeatability. The machine did not magically become better; I just stopped fighting yesterday’s setting.
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July 21, 2026 at 7:58 am #4124
If the answer is another $80 piece of metal I am going back to tea for twelve minutes.
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