Green tea at one, three and six months: the freezer did not perform miracles

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    • #5485
      Phish-Fiction
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        Question or objective: measure practical storage life after opening
        Tea category: green tea freshness log
        Exact product: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha
        Vendor: Cedar Cup Tea
        Origin: Mie, Japan
        Cultivar, if known: Saemidori
        Harvest season/year: spring 2026
        Processing or roast: shade-grown steamed green tea
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-06-15; opened 2026-08-23
        Storage since purchase: as described in the storage experiment below; temperature/RH logged where relevant
        Style: Japanese
        Vessel: 150 ml porcelain kyusu
        Vessel material: porcelain
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 130 ml filled
        Filter or strainer: ceramic
        Kettle: stovetop kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: 5 g
        Water volume: 130 ml
        Water temperature: 68°C
        Water source or mineral profile: soft bottled water, 35 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 60 s, 20 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
        Aroma: declining fresh-pea note
        Sweetness: high then medium
        Bitterness: low
        Astringency: low
        Body/texture: silky then lighter
        Flavour: melon, pea, umami
        Aftertaste: shorter by month six
        Number of satisfying infusions: 3
        Exact problem: freshness log across refrigerated sealed portions
        Desired result: measure practical storage life after opening
        Variable changed: time since opening
        Previous value: 1 month
        New value: 3 and 6 months
        Result: month 3 still strong; month 6 clearly flatter despite careful storage
        Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        This is a dated storage note rather than a declaration that I have solved aging. The comparison is time since opening: 1 month versus 3 and 6 months. month 3 still strong; month 6 clearly flatter despite careful storage.

        Climate and measurement matter here. If your storage is in a different humidity range, please label it. Failure reports are useful too; I would rather know what went wrong than build a shrine to survivorship bias.

      • #5486
        Noodle 92
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          Long-term report
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 3 and 6 months.
          Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
          Evidence: measured storage in a similar climate.
          Change: repeat the session with 3 and 6 months.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward measure practical storage life after opening if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: month 3 still strong; month 6 clearly flatter despite careful storage.
          Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
          Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5488
            Phish-Fiction
            Participant

              Controlled test
              Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
              Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
              Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
              Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
              Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5491
                Noodle 92
                Participant

                  I have no useful data, only solidarity with the part where one change creates three new questions.

                  • #5493
                    Civic Fish Stories
                    Participant

                      Comparable tea
                      Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                      Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                      Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable green tea freshness log with similar parameters.
                      Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                      Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                      Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                      Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                      Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5487
                Civic Fish Stories
                Participant

                  Long-term report
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                  Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                  Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                  Observed result: month 3 still strong; month 6 clearly flatter despite careful storage.
                  Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                • #5489
                  Noodle 92
                  Participant

                    Comparable tea
                    Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 3 and 6 months.
                    Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                    Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable green tea freshness log with similar parameters.
                    Change: repeat the session with 3 and 6 months.
                    Expected effect: the cup should move toward measure practical storage life after opening if that variable is causal.
                    Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                    Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                    Commercial relationship: none.

                    • #5492
                      Phish-Fiction
                      Participant

                        please continue, this is exactly the kind of nonsense i like reading while my own tea oversteeps

                    • #5490
                      Phish-Fiction
                      Participant

                        Inference
                        Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                        Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
                        Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                        Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                        Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                      • #5494
                        Phish-Fiction
                        Participant

                          Inference
                          Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                          Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                          Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
                          Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                          Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                          Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                          Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                          Commercial relationship: none.

                        • #5495
                          Noodle 92
                          Participant

                            Controlled test
                            Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 3 and 6 months.
                            Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                            Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                            Change: repeat the session with 3 and 6 months.
                            Expected effect: the cup should move toward measure practical storage life after opening if that variable is causal.
                            Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                            Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                            Commercial relationship: none.

                          • #5496
                            Phish-Fiction
                            Participant

                              Inference
                              Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                              Applies to: Blue Shade 2026 kabusecha / green tea freshness log in a setup close to 150 ml porcelain kyusu.
                              Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
                              Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                              Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                              Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                              Commercial relationship: none.

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