Glazed vs unglazed kyusu: I expected a bigger fight

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    • #5379
      Wrench And Jab
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        Question or objective: choose one pot for daily use
        Tea category: sencha teaware comparison
        Exact product: River Mist 2026 sencha
        Vendor: Cedar Cup Tea
        Origin: Kagoshima, Japan
        Cultivar, if known: Saemidori
        Harvest season/year: spring 2026
        Processing or roast: medium-steamed
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-07-02; opened 2026-08-08
        Storage since purchase: refrigerated sealed pouch; portion warmed before opening
        Style: Japanese
        Vessel: 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname
        Vessel material: glazed ceramic vs unglazed clay
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 150 ml filled each
        Filter or strainer: matched sasame
        Kettle: stovetop kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: 5 g each
        Water volume: 150 ml
        Water temperature: 70°C
        Water source or mineral profile: soft bottled water, 35 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 60 s, 20 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
        Aroma: nearly identical
        Sweetness: unglazed slightly rounder
        Bitterness: same
        Astringency: same
        Body/texture: slightly fuller unglazed
        Flavour: sweet grass, nori
        Aftertaste: similar
        Number of satisfying infusions: 3
        Exact problem: testing whether clay effect is large enough to matter
        Desired result: choose one pot for daily use
        Variable changed: vessel surface
        Previous value: glazed
        New value: unglazed
        Result: small texture difference, much smaller than expected
        Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        I used the same tea and tried to keep ratio, water and timing close enough that the vessel was actually the interesting variable. The test was vessel surface: glazed versus unglazed. small texture difference, much smaller than expected.

        If you own both kinds of gear, I would especially like the boring details: actual filled capacity, pour speed, cleanup, heat retention, and the thing that annoys you after three weeks.

      • #5380
        Okra
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          Controlled test
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with unglazed.
          Applies to: River Mist 2026 sencha / sencha teaware comparison in a setup close to 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname.
          Evidence: firsthand ownership/use of both compared options.
          Change: repeat the session with unglazed.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward choose one pot for daily use if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: small texture difference, much smaller than expected.
          Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
          Commercial relationship: none.

        • #5381
          Recipe Attic
          Participant

            Controlled test
            Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
            Applies to: River Mist 2026 sencha / sencha teaware comparison in a setup close to 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname.
            Evidence: controlled side-by-side use under matched conditions.
            Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
            Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
            Observed result: small texture difference, much smaller than expected.
            Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
            Commercial relationship: none.

            • #5382
              Wrench And Jab
              Participant

                Long-term report
                Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                Applies to: River Mist 2026 sencha / sencha teaware comparison in a setup close to 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname.
                Evidence: firsthand long-term use of one side of the comparison.
                Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                Commercial relationship: none.

            • #5383
              Recipe Attic
              Participant

                Controlled test
                Direct recommendation: repeat the session with unglazed.
                Applies to: River Mist 2026 sencha / sencha teaware comparison in a setup close to 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname.
                Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                Change: repeat the session with unglazed.
                Expected effect: the cup should move toward choose one pot for daily use if that variable is causal.
                Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5384
                Okra
                Participant

                  Long-term report
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Applies to: River Mist 2026 sencha / sencha teaware comparison in a setup close to 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname.
                  Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                  Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                  Observed result: small texture difference, much smaller than expected.
                  Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                • #5385
                  Wrench And Jab
                  Participant

                    Original-poster update
                    Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                    Applies to: River Mist 2026 sencha / sencha teaware comparison in a setup close to 180 ml glazed kyusu vs 180 ml unglazed Tokoname.
                    Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own River Mist 2026 sencha.
                    Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                    Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                    Observed result: small texture difference, much smaller than expected.
                    Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                    Commercial relationship: none.

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