Full decant vs leaving a little water behind

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    • #5234
      Lentil Asana
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        Question or objective: settle a habit argument with cups rather than doctrine
        Tea category: roasted oolong
        Exact product: Cliff Lantern 2025 Shui Xian
        Vendor: Red Pine Tea
        Origin: Wuyishan, Fujian
        Cultivar, if known: Shui Xian
        Harvest season/year: spring 2025
        Processing or roast: medium charcoal roast
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-05-20; opened 2026-07-20
        Storage since purchase: sealed original pouch inside a dark cupboard
        Style: gongfu
        Vessel: porcelain gaiwan
        Vessel material: porcelain
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 100 ml nominal / 90 ml filled
        Filter or strainer: lid gap
        Kettle: standard electric kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: 7.0 g
        Water volume: 90 ml
        Water temperature: 96°C
        Water source or mineral profile: filtered tap water, 75 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 8/10/12/18/25 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: full decant vs ~8 ml left between steeps
        Aroma: similar
        Sweetness: higher with full decant
        Bitterness: higher when water left
        Astringency: medium vs high
        Body/texture: full
        Flavour: roast, plum, mineral
        Aftertaste: cleaner with full decant
        Number of satisfying infusions: 7
        Exact problem: testing whether leftover water meaningfully compounds extraction
        Desired result: settle a habit argument with cups rather than doctrine
        Variable changed: decant completeness
        Previous value: leave ~8 ml
        New value: full decant
        Result: full decant reduced cumulative bitterness by steep four
        Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: pour/drainage video described in the post; not embedded in this archive

        I ran this as a comparison rather than two unrelated cups because memory is a terrible laboratory assistant. The main variable was decant completeness: leave ~8 ml versus full decant. Everything else was kept as close as I could manage.

        The result so far: full decant reduced cumulative bitterness by steep four. I would be interested in reports from people who have repeated the same comparison, especially if you used similar water and vessel.

      • #5235
        Object Biography
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          Controlled test
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with full decant.
          Applies to: Cliff Lantern 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
          Evidence: firsthand ownership/use of both compared options.
          Change: repeat the session with full decant.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward settle a habit argument with cups rather than doctrine if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: full decant reduced cumulative bitterness by steep four.
          Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
          Commercial relationship: none.

        • #5236
          Civic Fish Stories
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            Controlled test
            Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
            Applies to: Cliff Lantern 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
            Evidence: controlled side-by-side use under matched conditions.
            Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
            Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
            Observed result: full decant reduced cumulative bitterness by steep four.
            Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
            Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5237
            Lentil Asana
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              Long-term report
              Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Applies to: Cliff Lantern 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
              Evidence: firsthand long-term use of one side of the comparison.
              Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
              Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
              Commercial relationship: none.

            • #5238
              Civic Fish Stories
              Participant

                Controlled test
                Direct recommendation: repeat the session with full decant.
                Applies to: Cliff Lantern 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
                Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                Change: repeat the session with full decant.
                Expected effect: the cup should move toward settle a habit argument with cups rather than doctrine if that variable is causal.
                Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5239
                Lentil Asana
                Participant

                  Long-term report
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Applies to: Cliff Lantern 2025 Shui Xian / roasted oolong in a setup close to porcelain gaiwan.
                  Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                  Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                  Observed result: full decant reduced cumulative bitterness by steep four.
                  Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

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