Five sessions later: this spring Longjing is less polite than day one

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    • #5302
      Cleaver
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        Question or objective: decide whether to repurchase
        Tea category: Longjing green tea
        Exact product: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing
        Vendor: LeafHarbor Tea
        Origin: Hangzhou, Zhejiang
        Cultivar, if known: Longjing 43
        Harvest season/year: pre-Qingming 2026
        Processing or roast: hand-finished pan-fired green tea
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-07-15; opened 2026-08-05
        Storage since purchase: refrigerated sealed pouch; portion warmed before opening
        Style: glass and gaiwan
        Vessel: 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan
        Vessel material: glass / porcelain
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 250 ml / 90 ml filled
        Filter or strainer: none / lid gap
        Kettle: stovetop kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: no
        Dry leaf weight: 3 g glass; 4 g gaiwan
        Water volume: 220 ml / 90 ml
        Water temperature: 80°C
        Water source or mineral profile: low-mineral bottled water, 40 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: glass 3 min; gaiwan 25/20/30 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: gaiwan yes
        Aroma: chestnut, bean, fresh greens
        Sweetness: medium-high
        Bitterness: low
        Astringency: low
        Body/texture: light
        Flavour: bean, chestnut, sweet grass
        Aftertaste: clean nutty
        Number of satisfying infusions: 3-4
        Exact problem: multi-session harvest report, not a first impression
        Desired result: decide whether to repurchase
        Variable changed: vessel
        Previous value: glass
        New value: gaiwan
        Result: gaiwan showed more aroma; glass was sweeter and easier
        Dry-leaf photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        This is not a first-impression post. I have enough sessions with this tea now to know which notes survived the excitement of opening the bag. The most useful controlled change was vessel: glass versus gaiwan. gaiwan showed more aroma; glass was sweeter and easier. I am mostly interested in comparable reports: same harvest or style,.

      • #5303
        Tai Chi Tiffin
        Participant

          Long-term report
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with gaiwan.
          Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
          Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
          Change: repeat the session with gaiwan.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward decide whether to repurchase if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: gaiwan showed more aroma; glass was sweeter and easier.
          Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
          Commercial relationship: none.

        • #5304
          Bug Report Fiction
          Participant

            Same tea/batch
            Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
            Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
            Evidence: firsthand use of the same West Lake Window 2026 Longjing in a closely matched setup.
            Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
            Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
            Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
            Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
            Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5305
            Wire And Gloves
            Participant

              Controlled test
              Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
              Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
              Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
              Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
              Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
              Commercial relationship: none.

            • #5306
              Cleaver
              Participant

                Vendor/order report
                Direct recommendation: repeat the session with gaiwan.
                Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
                Evidence: completed order/report with dates and destination disclosed.
                Change: repeat the session with gaiwan.
                Expected effect: the cup should move toward decide whether to repurchase if that variable is causal.
                Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5307
                Tai Chi Tiffin
                Participant

                  Comparable tea
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
                  Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable Longjing green tea with similar parameters.
                  Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                  Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                  • #5308
                    Cleaver
                    Participant

                      Controlled test
                      Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                      Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
                      Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                      Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                      Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                      Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                      Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
                      Commercial relationship: none.

                  • #5309
                    Tai Chi Tiffin
                    Participant

                      I appreciate that nobody has told you to buy a new kettle yet. Growth.

                    • #5310
                      Cleaver
                      Participant

                        Vendor/order report
                        Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
                        Evidence: completed order/report with dates and destination disclosed.
                        Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                        Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                        Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                      • #5311
                        Wire And Gloves
                        Participant

                          Long-term report
                          Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                          Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
                          Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                          Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                          Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                          Observed result: gaiwan showed more aroma; glass was sweeter and easier.
                          Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                          Commercial relationship: none.

                        • #5312
                          Cleaver
                          Participant

                            The phrase “actual filled capacity” has ruined at least two of my favorite excuses.

                          • #5313
                            Tai Chi Tiffin
                            Participant

                              Vendor/order report
                              Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                              Applies to: West Lake Window 2026 Longjing / Longjing green tea in a setup close to 250 ml glass / 100 ml gaiwan.
                              Evidence: completed order/report with dates and destination disclosed.
                              Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                              Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                              Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                              Commercial relationship: none.

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