Can someone explain this puck before I invent a theory?

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    • #4174
      Footwork 63
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        Machine / revision: Lelit Mara X V2 2024
        Country / voltage: Ireland / 230V
        Grinder / burrs / setting / calibration: DF64 Gen 2; stock 64 mm flat burrs; 11 on my collar; chirp point marked with tape.
        Basket / portafilter: stock double basket with paper filter; stock portafilter with double spout (58 mm system where applicable).
        Bean / roast date: Guatemala Huehuetenango medium roast; roast date 2026-07-20.
        Dose / yield / extraction time: 19.0 g in, 38 g out, 30 s target/current reference.
        Water / temperature: filter-jug water from moderately hard tap; factory brew temperature after a 10-minute preheat.
        Exact symptom: Medium roast still tastes sharp and hollow at the current ratio.
        Tests already performed: Try the same puck at a slightly higher temperature or longer ratio, changing one variable only Already cleaned the obvious removable parts and repeated the test once.
        Diagnostic photograph or video: photo of the grinder setting and a short shot video.

        The numbers look respectable and the cup does not. The Lelit Mara X V2 2024 has therefore chosen to make this personal. Medium roast still tastes sharp and hollow at the current ratio.

      • #4175
        Footwork 63
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          Confirmed solution: I kept the dose fixed, went a little finer and extended the yield. The sour edge disappeared without changing three things at once. I am leaving the original numbers above intact so the next person can see what changed.

        • #4176
          Absurd-Adjuster
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            Short answer: Start with the simple reproducible test before buying parts.
            Applies to which model/revision: Lelit Mara X V2 2024.
            Likely cause: The symptom points first to a setup, wear-part or calibration issue that can be separated from a major failure.
            Test to perform next: Return one variable to a known reference, repeat twice, and record whether the symptom changes in the same direction.
            Expected result: If that subsystem is the cause, the symptom should change predictably rather than randomly.
            Safety limit: Do not chase the shot with unsafe pressure/temperature modifications; return to stock limits if diagnosis becomes uncertain.
            Evidence: First-hand owner experience with the same model/configuration; not a manufacturer diagnosis.

            • #4177
              Motorcity74
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                The useful documented check is the revision-specific maintenance/service sequence, not a generic espresso-machine video. For Lelit Mara X V2 2024, verify the manual procedure and part number before opening or ordering anything. If the documented test does not reproduce the fault, stop treating that subsystem as proven.

            • #4178
              Dialect
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                Not the exact revision, but I had a closely related setup with the same general failure mode. The thing that saved time was separating the DF64 Gen 2 / puck-prep side from the machine side instead of adjusting both together. Similar experience, not proof for your unit.

                • #4182
                  Bookish92
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                    If you can post the short video mentioned in the opening block, the sound/flow pattern may separate a normal Lelit Mara X V2 2024 noise from the fault you are describing.

                  • #4190
                    Ghosthouse
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                      One small follow-up: repeat the test from a cold start once. Heat can hide or create a fault, and “it worked five minutes later” is useful information.

                  • #4179
                    Moisture 2000
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                      Inference only: because the symptom is repeatable and your listed tests already rule out some obvious causes, I would suspect the narrowest remaining mechanical/setup path before a board-level failure. I would not buy a part from that inference alone.

                    • #4180
                      Wire And Gloves
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                        This is a good example of why the exact revision and test history matter. “My Lelit Mara X V2 2024 is bad” produces twenty theories; the measurements above at least give the theories somewhere to die.

                      • #4181
                        Prison Book Bars
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                          For what it is worth, please stop posting clean drip trays. Some of us are trying to live honestly

                        • #4183
                          Ghosthouse
                          Participant

                            I had a similar issue but not the same revision. Mine ended up being embarrassingly simple, so I would keep the easy checks alive until the evidence kills them.

                          • #4184
                            Object Biography
                            Participant

                              I had a similar issue but not the same revision. Mine ended up being embarrassingly simple, so I would keep the easy checks alive until the evidence kills them.

                              • #4185
                                Absurd-Adjuster
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                                  I had a similar issue but not the same revision. Mine ended up being embarrassingly simple, so I would keep the easy checks alive until the evidence kills them.

                              • #4186
                                Object Biography
                                Participant

                                  If you can post the short video mentioned in the opening block, the sound/flow pattern may separate a normal Lelit Mara X V2 2024 noise from the fault you are describing.

                                  • #4188
                                    Object Biography
                                    Participant

                                      For what it is worth, if the answer is another $80 piece of metal I am going back to tea for twelve minutes

                                      • #4191
                                        Absurd-Adjuster
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                                          Please stop posting clean drip trays. Some of us are trying to live honestly.

                                        • #4192
                                          Moisture 2000
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                                            I came here to save money and now I know what burr touch means. This has gone badly.

                                      • #4187
                                        Dialect
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                                          One small follow-up: repeat the test from a cold start once. Heat can hide or create a fault, and “it worked five minutes later” is useful information.

                                          • #4195
                                            Prison Book Bars
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                                              For what it is worth, my technical contribution is that “one last upgrade” is not a measurable quantity.

                                          • #4189
                                            Wire And Gloves
                                            Participant

                                              If you can post the short video mentioned in the opening block, the sound/flow pattern may separate a normal Lelit Mara X V2 2024 noise from the fault you are describing.

                                            • #4193
                                              Object Biography
                                              Participant

                                                I had a similar issue but not the same revision. Mine ended up being embarrassingly simple, so I would keep the easy checks alive until the evidence kills them.

                                              • #4194
                                                Moisture 2000
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                                                  The useful bit in this thread is that nobody has to guess which Lelit Mara X V2 2024 or DF64 Gen 2 is involved. Half of repair advice goes bad before that point.

                                                • #4196
                                                  Ghosthouse
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                                                    One small follow-up: repeat the test from a cold start once. Heat can hide or create a fault, and “it worked five minutes later” is useful information.

                                                  • #4197
                                                    Absurd-Adjuster
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                                                      If you can post the short video mentioned in the opening block, the sound/flow pattern may separate a normal Lelit Mara X V2 2024 noise from the fault you are describing.

                                                    • #4198
                                                      Motorcity74
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                                                        If you can post the short video mentioned in the opening block, the sound/flow pattern may separate a normal Lelit Mara X V2 2024 noise from the fault you are describing.

                                                      • #4199
                                                        Absurd-Adjuster
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                                                          One small follow-up: repeat the test from a cold start once. Heat can hide or create a fault, and “it worked five minutes later” is useful information.

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