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    • #5164
      Okra
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        Question or objective: keep malt and body with less bitter front edge
        Tea category: black tea
        Exact product: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush
        Vendor: Mountain Letter Tea
        Origin: Dibrugarh, Assam
        Cultivar, if known: assamica mixed clonal
        Harvest season/year: summer 2026
        Processing or roast: orthodox black tea
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-06-01; opened 2026-07-06
        Storage since purchase: sealed original pouch inside a dark cupboard
        Style: Western
        Vessel: ceramic mug with basket
        Vessel material: glazed ceramic + stainless basket
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 350 ml nominal / 300 ml filled
        Filter or strainer: fine stainless basket
        Kettle: stovetop kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: 4.0 g
        Water volume: 300 ml
        Water temperature: 96°C
        Water source or mineral profile: filtered tap water, Dublin; moderately hard
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 3 min 30 s
        Agitation: one stir at 30 seconds
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
        Aroma: malt and raisin
        Sweetness: medium
        Bitterness: high
        Astringency: medium-high
        Body/texture: full
        Flavour: malt, raisin, cocoa
        Aftertaste: dry malt
        Number of satisfying infusions: 1
        Exact problem: bitterness appears before the body is fully developed
        Desired result: keep malt and body with less bitter front edge
        Variable changed: time
        Previous value: 4 min
        New value: 3 min 30 s
        Result: slightly less bitter but also slightly thinner
        Dry-leaf photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        i have reached the stage where changing three things at once is only producing new kinds of confusion. The cup is giving me bitterness appears before the body is fully developed. The last controlled change was time: 4 min to 3 min 30 s, and slightly less bitter but also slightly thinner. i’d like the next test to be one variable only. If you have brewed this exact tea, or something genuinely comparable in a similar vessel, that would be especially useful.

        My target is simple: keep malt and body with less bitter front edge. I am not looking for a new shopping list unless the equipment is actually the problem.

      • #5165
        Okra
        Participant

          Tested solution
          Direct recommendation: drop temperature to 92°C while keeping 3:30.
          Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
          Evidence: firsthand test by the questioner on Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush.
          Change: drop temperature to 92°C while keeping 3:30.
          Expected effect: similar body with a softer bitter edge.
          Observed result: slightly less bitter but also slightly thinner.
          Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
          Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5168
            Peter Masala
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              Controlled test
              Direct recommendation: drop temperature to 92°C while keeping 3:30.
              Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
              Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
              Change: drop temperature to 92°C while keeping 3:30.
              Expected effect: similar body with a softer bitter edge.
              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
              Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
              Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5169
                Safety 81
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                  Comparable tea
                  Direct recommendation: increase leaf slightly to 4.5 g and shorten to 3 minutes.
                  Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                  Evidence: firsthand experience with black tea in a different vessel.
                  Change: increase leaf slightly to 4.5 g and shorten to 3 minutes.
                  Expected effect: fuller aroma and body with less late extraction.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5171
                Safety 81
                Participant

                  Inference
                  Direct recommendation: drop temperature to 92°C while keeping 3:30.
                  Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                  Evidence: inference from the posted parameters, not a test of this exact tea.
                  Change: drop temperature to 92°C while keeping 3:30.
                  Expected effect: similar body with a softer bitter edge.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5166
                Wok-Dough
                Participant

                  Same tea/batch
                  Direct recommendation: increase leaf slightly to 4.5 g and shorten to 3 minutes.
                  Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                  Evidence: firsthand use of the same Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush in a closely matched setup.
                  Change: increase leaf slightly to 4.5 g and shorten to 3 minutes.
                  Expected effect: fuller aroma and body with less late extraction.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                • #5167
                  Safety 81
                  Participant

                    Comparable tea
                    Direct recommendation: remove the stir.
                    Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                    Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable black tea with similar parameters.
                    Change: remove the stir.
                    Expected effect: slightly softer cup with clearer sweetness.
                    Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                    Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
                    Commercial relationship: none.

                    • #5170
                      Okra
                      Participant

                        Professional experience
                        Direct recommendation: remove the stir.
                        Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                        Evidence: general brewing principle consistent with repeated tests; not this exact batch.
                        Change: remove the stir.
                        Expected effect: slightly softer cup with clearer sweetness.
                        Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                        Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                    • #5172
                      Peter Masala
                      Participant

                        Professional experience
                        Direct recommendation: increase leaf slightly to 4.5 g and shorten to 3 minutes.
                        Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                        Evidence: firsthand experience with black tea in a different vessel.
                        Change: increase leaf slightly to 4.5 g and shorten to 3 minutes.
                        Expected effect: fuller aroma and body with less late extraction.
                        Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                        Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                      • #5173
                        Okra
                        Participant

                          Controlled test
                          Direct recommendation: remove the stir.
                          Applies to: Rain Porch 2026 Assam second flush / black tea in a setup close to ceramic mug with basket.
                          Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                          Change: remove the stir.
                          Expected effect: slightly softer cup with clearer sweetness.
                          Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                          Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                          Commercial relationship: none.

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