60, 90 or 120 ml: apparently gaiwan size is a lifestyle choice

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    • #5409
      Noodle 92
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        Question or objective: pick a practical daily size
        Tea category: gaiwan size comparison
        Exact product: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans
        Vendor: River Gate Tea
        Origin: Phoenix Mountain, Guangdong
        Cultivar, if known: Mi Lan Xiang
        Harvest season/year: spring 2025
        Processing or roast: medium roast
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-06-25; opened 2026-08-21
        Storage since purchase: sealed original pouch inside a dark cupboard
        Style: gongfu
        Vessel: 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans
        Vessel material: porcelain
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 55 / 82 / 108 ml filled
        Filter or strainer: lid gap
        Kettle: standard electric kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: ratio matched at 1 g per 13 ml
        Water volume: capacity matched
        Water temperature: 90°C
        Water source or mineral profile: same bottled water, 55 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 8/8/10/15 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
        Aroma: similar
        Sweetness: similar
        Bitterness: similar
        Astringency: similar
        Body/texture: similar
        Flavour: similar with handling differences
        Aftertaste: similar
        Number of satisfying infusions: 6
        Exact problem: one-person ergonomics and waste comparison
        Desired result: pick a practical daily size
        Variable changed: vessel size
        Previous value: 120 ml
        New value: 60 and 90 ml
        Result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost
        Dry-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Liquor photograph: not attached yet
        Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        I used the same tea and tried to keep ratio, water and timing close enough that the vessel was actually the interesting variable. The test was vessel size: 120 ml versus 60 and 90 ml. 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.

        If you own both kinds of gear, I would especially like the boring details: actual filled capacity, pour speed, cleanup, heat retention, and the thing that annoys you after three weeks.

      • #5410
        Civic Fish Stories
        Participant

          Controlled test
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
          Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
          Evidence: firsthand ownership/use of both compared options.
          Change: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward pick a practical daily size if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
          Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
          Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5411
            Bean-Paste
            Participant

              Controlled test
              Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
              Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
              Evidence: controlled side-by-side use under matched conditions.
              Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
              Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
              Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
              Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
              Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5412
                Noodle 92
                Participant

                  Long-term report
                  Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                  Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                  Evidence: firsthand long-term use of one side of the comparison.
                  Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                  Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                • #5415
                  Civic Fish Stories
                  Participant

                    Long-term report
                    Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                    Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                    Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                    Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                    Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                    Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
                    Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                    Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5413
                Civic Fish Stories
                Participant

                  Controlled test
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
                  Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                  Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                  Change: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
                  Expected effect: the cup should move toward pick a practical daily size if that variable is causal.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                  • #5414
                    Bean-Paste
                    Participant

                      Long-term report
                      Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                      Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                      Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                      Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                      Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                      Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
                      Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                      Commercial relationship: none.

                  • #5416
                    Bean-Paste
                    Participant

                      Controlled test
                      Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
                      Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                      Evidence: controlled side-by-side use under matched conditions.
                      Change: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
                      Expected effect: the cup should move toward pick a practical daily size if that variable is causal.
                      Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
                      Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                      Commercial relationship: none.

                    • #5417
                      Noodle 92
                      Participant

                        Controlled test
                        Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                        Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                        Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                        Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                        Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                      • #5418
                        Civic Fish Stories
                        Participant

                          Long-term report
                          Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                          Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                          Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                          Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                          Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                          Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
                          Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                          Commercial relationship: none.

                        • #5419
                          Noodle 92
                          Participant

                            Original-poster update
                            Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
                            Applies to: same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans / gaiwan size comparison in a setup close to 60 ml / 90 ml / 120 ml porcelain gaiwans.
                            Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own same 2025 dancong across three gaiwans.
                            Change: repeat the session with 60 and 90 ml.
                            Expected effect: the cup should move toward pick a practical daily size if that variable is causal.
                            Observed result: 90 ml is easiest balance of handling, heat and leaf cost.
                            Limitations: If your actual filled volume differs from the stated volume, the ratio may be the bigger issue.
                            Commercial relationship: none.

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