2025 vs 2026: same producer, not the same tea

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    • #5338
      Bean-Paste
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        Question or objective: see whether the new year justifies replacing remaining 2025 stock
        Tea category: sencha harvest comparison
        Exact product: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026
        Vendor: Cedar Cup Tea
        Origin: Kagoshima, Japan
        Cultivar, if known: Saemidori
        Harvest season/year: spring 2025 vs spring 2026
        Processing or roast: medium-steamed sencha
        Cake/batch number, if relevant: cake/lot noted above where applicable; otherwise N/A
        Purchase/opening date: purchased 2026-07-08; opened 2026-08-06
        Storage since purchase: refrigerated sealed pouch; portion warmed before opening
        Style: Japanese side-by-side
        Vessel: two identical porcelain kyusu
        Vessel material: porcelain
        Nominal and actual filled capacity: 150 ml filled each
        Filter or strainer: ceramic
        Kettle: stovetop kettle + thermometer
        Vessel preheated: yes
        Dry leaf weight: 5.0 g each
        Water volume: 150 ml
        Water temperature: 70°C
        Water source or mineral profile: soft bottled water, 35 ppm
        Rinse: 5-10 s where noted by the recipe; otherwise none
        Infusion schedule: 60 s then 20 s
        Agitation: none
        Was each infusion completely decanted?: yes
        Aroma: 2026 brighter; 2025 nuttier
        Sweetness: high both
        Bitterness: low
        Astringency: low-medium
        Body/texture: 2025 fuller
        Flavour: pea/grass vs nut/seaweed
        Aftertaste: 2026 cleaner
        Number of satisfying infusions: 3
        Exact problem: harvest-year comparison from same producer
        Desired result: see whether the new year justifies replacing remaining 2025 stock
        Variable changed: harvest year
        Previous value: 2025
        New value: 2026
        Result: 2026 is brighter but 2025 still has better body
        Dry-leaf photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Liquor photograph: available in the author’s notes; not embedded in this archive
        Wet-leaf photograph: not attached yet
        Video if pouring or drainage is relevant: not relevant

        This is not a first-impression post. I have enough sessions with this tea now to know which notes survived the excitement of opening the bag. The most useful controlled change was harvest year: 2025 versus 2026. 2026 is brighter but 2025 still has better body.

        I am mostly interested in comparable reports: same harvest or style, similar water, and more than one session. If your experience is from a very different setup, please say so.

      • #5339
        Civic Fish Stories
        Participant

          Long-term report
          Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 2026.
          Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
          Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
          Change: repeat the session with 2026.
          Expected effect: the cup should move toward see whether the new year justifies replacing remaining 2025 stock if that variable is causal.
          Observed result: 2026 is brighter but 2025 still has better body.
          Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
          Commercial relationship: none.

          • #5340
            Noodle 92
            Participant

              Same tea/batch
              Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
              Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
              Evidence: firsthand use of the same River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 in a closely matched setup.
              Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
              Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
              Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
              Commercial relationship: none.

              • #5342
                Bean-Paste
                Participant

                  Vendor/order report
                  Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 2026.
                  Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                  Evidence: completed order/report with dates and destination disclosed.
                  Change: repeat the session with 2026.
                  Expected effect: the cup should move toward see whether the new year justifies replacing remaining 2025 stock if that variable is causal.
                  Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                  Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                  Commercial relationship: none.

                • #5345
                  Civic Fish Stories
                  Participant

                    Same tea/batch
                    Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 2026.
                    Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                    Evidence: firsthand use of the same River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 in a closely matched setup.
                    Change: repeat the session with 2026.
                    Expected effect: the cup should move toward see whether the new year justifies replacing remaining 2025 stock if that variable is causal.
                    Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                    Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                    Commercial relationship: none.

                • #5341
                  Pipe And Punch
                  Participant

                    Controlled test
                    Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                    Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                    Evidence: side-by-side or repeated one-variable test.
                    Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                    Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                    Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                    Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                    Commercial relationship: none.

                    • #5344
                      Bean-Paste
                      Participant

                        Original-poster update
                        Direct recommendation: weigh the actual filled water once.
                        Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                        Evidence: follow-up on the author’s own River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026.
                        Change: weigh the actual filled water once.
                        Expected effect: your ratio will become comparable with other reports.
                        Observed result: 2026 is brighter but 2025 still has better body.
                        Limitations: My result is from a small number of sessions, so treat it as evidence rather than law.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                  • #5343
                    Noodle 92
                    Participant

                      Comparable tea
                      Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                      Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                      Evidence: firsthand use of a comparable sencha harvest comparison with similar parameters.
                      Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                      Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                      Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                      Limitations: This may not transfer to a heavier roast or a very different vessel size.
                      Commercial relationship: none.

                    • #5346
                      Noodle 92
                      Participant

                        Long-term report
                        Direct recommendation: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                        Evidence: repeated sessions over time.
                        Change: repeat the same recipe on a second day.
                        Expected effect: a repeated result should be easier to trust.
                        Observed result: 2026 is brighter but 2025 still has better body.
                        Limitations: I would stop if the change removes the aroma you are trying to preserve.
                        Commercial relationship: none.

                      • #5347
                        Pipe And Punch
                        Participant

                          I have no useful data, only solidarity with the part where one change creates three new questions.

                          • #5348
                            Bean-Paste
                            Participant

                              Vendor/order report
                              Direct recommendation: repeat the session with 2026.
                              Applies to: River Bank sencha 2025 and 2026 / sencha harvest comparison in a setup close to two identical porcelain kyusu.
                              Evidence: completed order/report with dates and destination disclosed.
                              Change: repeat the session with 2026.
                              Expected effect: the cup should move toward see whether the new year justifies replacing remaining 2025 stock if that variable is causal.
                              Observed result: not tested on this exact setup yet.
                              Limitations: Water chemistry may change the result, so I would not generalize this to every city.
                              Commercial relationship: none.

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