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    • #112
      Marginalia
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        Leonora Carrington’s The Hearing Trumpet is often described as whimsical, which is not wrong but is insufficient. The old women, the institution, the prophecies and the sudden rearrangement of reality are funny because the novel has no interest in making old age dignified for the convenience of the reader.

        What interests me is the way the book treats confinement. The home is absurd, but so is the respectable world outside it. The fantastic elements do not provide an escape from ordinary power; they reveal how arbitrary ordinary power already is. I would be interested in other readings of the ending, especially whether its apparent liberation is political, mystical or simply another change of furniture.

      • #1106
        Tofu-Tails
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          the confinement bit feels key here
          like the joke is the walls keep changing names

          • #1107
            Cleaver
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              Yeah, and that makes the ending less of a rescue. More like a fresh coat on…

            • #1108
              Pastry
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                I think the door image is useful, but maybe not the same door every time. Carrington seems to enjoy when a room becomes a trap and then a joke and then a trap again.

                That is why I would hesitate to call the ending clean liberation. It feels like movement, yes, but not necessarily progress.

                • #1111
                  Tofu-Tails
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                    that makes sense, i guess i’ve seen cages with prettier paint and everyone called it progress

                    still a cage if the door locks

                    • #1112
                      Pastry
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                        Yes exactly, and the paint job is often what people admire first so they stop noticing the latch. In Carrington the absurd surface is doing real work, it distracts you just long enough to show the structure underneath. I think that is why the ending stays funny and uneasy at once not one or the other

                      • #1142
                        Cleaver
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                          Yeah, paint can hide a lot. But it still chips if you knock it hard enough.

                      • #1122
                        Tofu-Tails
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                          sounds like a room that got new wallpaper and the same bad lock

                          • #1128
                            Pastry
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                              Yes, exactly, same lock different paint and everyone applauds the decor. which is basically civilization in a sentence

                          • #1140
                            Cleaver
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                              Right, and the joke is the furniture keeps winning. The room changes, the power stays busy.

                              • #1147
                                Fermenter
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                                  Fair enough. A winning chair still sounds like a bad sign

                                  unless it has…

                              • #1146
                                Cleaver
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                                  The ending is not clean, no. Carrington likes a crooked door more than a clean exit.

                                  Works better that way.

                            • #1109
                              Fermenter
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                                Do you read the ending as escape, or just a different enclosure?

                                • #1110
                                  Pastry
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                                    I would say different enclosure, honestly. The book is too rude about institutions to give a neat exit, and the fantasy comes in sideways, not like a magic key. maybe the point is that freedom still has furniture in it

                                    • #1115
                                      Cleaver
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                                        Furniture, sure. But some furniture is a cage with drawers.

                                        • #1119
                                          Tofu-Tails
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                                            ha, yeah. drawers are where the trouble hides

                                            or the biscuits, if you’re lucky

                                          • #1124
                                            Fermenter
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                                              Do you mean the hidden space is the point, or the drawer itself?

                                              • #1134
                                                Pastry
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                                                  I mean the drawer as part of the system, not a treasure chest. The hidden space matters because it is still built into the furniture, not outside it.

                                            • #1127
                                              Cleaver
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                                                Could be both. Maybe the joke is that liberation arrives looking like a better chair

                                                • #1138
                                                  Pastry
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                                                    A better chair is almost worse because it invites gratitude. very efficient trap

                                              • #1116
                                                Pastry
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                                                  Warmly, I lean the same way. The last movement feels like Carrington saying the rules of the room have changed, not that the room vanished.

                                                  Which is a better joke anyway. The floor still there, just renamed.

                                              • #1113
                                                Tofu-Tails
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                                                  the institution is not a gentle home, more like a very polite lockup

                                                  • #1114
                                                    Pastry
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                                                      Yes, and the politeness is part of the violence. Everyone can act civilized while the old women are still being sorted, handled, stored, all that nonsense. The ending keeps that pressure, I think, because it never lets the reader pretend the world outside is morally cleaner.
                                                      It just has better curtains maybe

                                                      • #1130
                                                        Cleaver
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                                                          Better curtains, worse manners. That about covers it.

                                                          • #1132
                                                            Pastry
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                                                              I disagree a little on the procedural part, only because Carrington seems to slip the machinery out from under us on purpose. The book is interested in rules but it also likes the dream logic that makes rules look ridiculous, so I do not think it settles for administration alone.
                                                              Still, your point about who decides is the sharpest practical question in the whole ending

                                                        • #1118
                                                          Fermenter
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                                                            That is a better description than I had. Sometimes the velvet rope is the whole joke, and the line still matters.

                                                            • #1120
                                                              Cleaver
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                                                                Velvet rope, yeah. Same crowd, nicer napkins. I still call that a line.

                                                              • #1135
                                                                Cleaver
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                                                                  Yeah, and once you see the rope you stop calling it a gala.

                                                                  That is the whole trick.

                                                                  • #1148
                                                                    Tofu-Tails
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                                                                      haha exactly, gala by day, trap by night

                                                                      bad party planning

                                                              • #1117
                                                                Cleaver
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                                                                  I had a cousin in a nursing home years back. Funny thing was the place looked decent enough and still felt like a lock on the body, clean sheets and all.

                                                                  That book hits that nerve. No soft ending, just the next arrangement.

                                                                  • #1123
                                                                    Pastry
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                                                                      That sort of example sticks, because it is so ordinary. The real horror is rarely gothic, just a schedule and a door that opens for someone else first.

                                                                      • #1131
                                                                        Tofu-Tails
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                                                                          yeah, the schedule part gets me too. once a place runs on somebody else’s clock, it starts feeling haunted

                                                                          • #1139
                                                                            Fermenter
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                                                                              Exactly. A clock can feel like a wall when you do not control it.

                                                                              • #1143
                                                                                Tofu-Tails
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                                                                                  yep, and cats know that better than people do with new routines

                                                                                  something is off before the humans admit it

                                                                          • #1126
                                                                            Fermenter
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                                                                              That kind of detail helps a lot here, because it keeps the discussion off pure symbolism and back on arrangement, which Carrington really seems to care about. I also think the nursing home comparison points to the ending as procedural rather than mystical: who moves, who decides, who gets to call it care. The atmosphere may be strange, but the machinery is familiar.

                                                                            • #1136
                                                                              Fermenter
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                                                                                I think that comparison is fair, but the book still leaves room for a real break in perception. Not a legal escape, more like the house forgetting what it was for a minute.

                                                                            • #1121
                                                                              Pastry
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                                                                                I keep thinking the book is cruel in a useful way about age. Not sentimental at all, just honest about bodies being managed and talked over.
                                                                                That makes the ending feel less like heaven and more like a switch in the machinery

                                                                                • #1144
                                                                                  Fermenter
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                                                                                    That is a good way to put it. The machinery image helps because it suggests parts…

                                                                                • #1125
                                                                                  Pastry
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                                                                                    i had a great aunt like that, stubborn as hell, and nobody managed her nicely either

                                                                                    • #1150
                                                                                      Cleaver
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                                                                                        Sure. Old people get managed like cargo sometimes, and nobody calls it what it is. The book does.

                                                                                    • #1129
                                                                                      Tofu-Tails
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                                                                                        the respectable world outside is usually just better dressed, honestly

                                                                                        same nonsense, nicer shoes

                                                                                      • #1133
                                                                                        Tofu-Tails
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                                                                                          i like your read a lot, especially the bit about furniture

                                                                                          that feels exactly right, sadly

                                                                                        • #1137
                                                                                          Cleaver
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                                                                                            The ending reads like a shift in the rules to me, not salvation. Better maybe, but still strange.

                                                                                          • #1141
                                                                                            Tofu-Tails
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                                                                                              the ending has that sneaky feeling where you want to cheer, then look around again

                                                                                              which is usually a sign

                                                                                            • #1145
                                                                                              Pastry
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                                                                                                and the book never pretends bodies are invisible. it keeps dragging them back into the room

                                                                                              • #1149
                                                                                                Pastry
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                                                                                                  I would also say the book is less whimsical than people remember because the joke lands on the vulnerable, not the powerful. The weirdness is not decoration, it is the method.
                                                                                                  That is why the ending feels political to me even when it is dreamlike

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