The freezer is not a seed bank

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    • #221
      Seed-Saver
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        People save extra seed packets in the freezer because somebody told them cold means preserved. Sometimes that works. Sometimes the packet has already taken on moisture, the seeds wake up and freeze again, and the next season produces a small lesson in humidity.

        For home gardeners, a sealed container with a desiccant packet in a cool, dry place is usually less dramatic. Label the variety and the season, and do not keep opening the container to admire your organizational system. What storage routines have actually kept seed viable in an ordinary house?

      • #796
        Tai Chi Tiffin
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          I have had better luck with old pill bottles and silica gel than with the freezer, honestly.

          The important part seems to be keeping humidity out from the start, not rescuing damp seed packets after the fact.

          • #797
            Adam Guitar Shruti
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              That is the piece people skip, yes. If the packet goes into storage already damp, the cold only slows trouble down a little, it does not fix the damage. I have seen labeled envelopes inside a jar with a desiccant packet work well for a few seasons.

              • #808
                Tai Chi Tiffin
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                  I think the freezer only helps when the seeds are already properly dried, so we agree on the main point. The container and desiccant do most…

              • #798
                Lock-Throw
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                  same here, mason jar and a dry closet. worked fine for beans last year

                • #801
                  Adam Guitar Shruti
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                    Freezer as seed spa, maybe not.

                    • #810
                      Tai Chi Tiffin
                      Participant

                        Perhaps. But spa conditions require controlled moisture, and the freezer is usually the opposite of that in a home kitchen.

                        It sounds tidy, but the result is often less so.

                    • #806
                      Adam Guitar Shruti
                      Participant

                        A freezer can preserve a lot of things, but it is not a personality test for seed.

                        The seed either tolerates the cycle or it does…

                    • #799
                      Adam Guitar Shruti
                      Participant

                        The label matters more than people think, and the season too.

                        A neat system is useless if you cannot tell which tomato was the early one…

                        • #800
                          Tai Chi Tiffin
                          Participant

                            Yes, and I also write the source supplier if I have it.

                            That saved me once when two packets had the same variety name but behaved…

                            • #809
                              Lock-Throw
                              Participant

                                good point, source notes save grief later. i wrote seed date on masking tape once and it peeled off by summer

                                • #812
                                  Tai Chi Tiffin
                                  Participant

                                    Masking tape is only half reliable for long storage, yes.

                                    I use a pencil on the packet itself if the paper allows it, because ink can fade or smear when the room gets damp.

                              • #802
                                Lock-Throw
                                Participant

                                  i keep mine in a tin with dry rice, old school i guess. label helps when you find mystery beans in february and wonder what fool planted them, which was me of course

                                  • #804
                                    Adam Guitar Shruti
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                                      Rice is a decent crude desiccant, but it is not quite the same as keeping seed truly dry.

                                      Still, for an ordinary house it may be…

                                      • #805
                                        Lock-Throw
                                        Participant

                                          yeah, not lab dry just less swampy. my beans dont complain much

                                  • #803
                                    Tai Chi Tiffin
                                    Participant

                                      I would add that the container itself should stay closed as much as possible.

                                      People open it every week, then wonder why the packets feel tired by planting time.

                                    • #807
                                      Lock-Throw
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                                        i keep pumpkin seed in a film canister with silica pack, never had a bad batch

                                        just dont stash it on top of the fridge, that spot gets weird hot

                                      • #811
                                        Adam Guitar Shruti
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                                          I suspect some people confuse cold storage with safe storage, which is understandable and a little expensive when the tomatoes fail.

                                          At least seeds are cheaper than a full freezer drawer of disappointed ambition.

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