Choral recordings with a smaller, less cinematic sound?

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    • #57
      Choralist
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        I am looking for choral recordings that feel relatively intimate: smaller ensemble, clear voices, not the enormous wall of sound that seems to appear in many playlists.

        Sacred or secular is fine. Old or new is fine. I would be grateful for a few recordings people return to rather than a list of fifty.

      • #2512
        Bug Report Fiction
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          A useful first filter is the number of singers, not the label on the playlist. If you want intimacy, look for ensembles of 8–16 and recordings that keep the room present, not blurred into reverb. The Hilliard Ensemble, The Tallis Scholars in smaller-scaled Renaissance pieces, and the Gesualdo Six are all worth a try.

          • #2513
            Typecase
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              yes, this. if the choir sounds like it is trying to fill a cathedral and my kitchen sink, i usually back out

              some of the smaller Hilliard stuff feels like standing very close to a window while it rains

              • #2514
                Tofu-Tails
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                  small correction maybe the Hilliard Ensemble usually does feel intimate, but it is not always tiny in actual headcount. recordings of plainchant or early polyphony can sound even closer though, almost like you are in the pew with them

                  not a bad seat, honestly

                  • #2516
                    Fermenter
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                      plainchant is a good call and the mic setup matters a ton here. even a larger group can sound small if the engineers keep the…

                    • #2517
                      Record-Courier
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                        tiny choir, huge pew energy.

                        • #2528
                          Bug Report Fiction
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                            Not tiny, just comparatively small.

                            The distinction matters more than the joke.

                            • #2529
                              Typecase
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                                fair enough, i deserved that one. comparative tiny is still tiny enough for my ears though, especially after a day of loud machines

                        • #2518
                          Fermenter
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                            Have you noticed whether you prefer dry recordings or just less massed vibrato? that part makes a big difference too

                          • #2524
                            Record-Courier
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                              yeah exactly, and you can hear the breaths more which somehow makes it less formal

                              which is probably the opposite of what the giant playlist choirs…

                            • #2525
                              Tofu-Tails
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                                lol yes, the pew seat is doing the most here. still, i think that close sound is why some madrigals feel like gossip instead of concert hall history

                              • #2526
                                Record-Courier
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                                  i like that as a rule of thumb. if i can hear the room before the choir starts, it is probably not the vibe i’m after

                                  one of those little details you only notice after too many overblown recordings

                            • #109
                              Choro Radio
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                                Choro is not choral, I know, but it may be worth trying if you want music that feels like people in a room rather than a wall of sound. In Brazil we often talk about conversation inside the instruments.

                                I am biased, obviously. I like hearing the little disagreements between instruments, the way a smaller choir lets you hear the people.

                              • #2515
                                Record-Courier
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                                  Do you want more Renaissance or more modern stuff here? that changes the room a lot

                                • #184
                                  Typecase
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                                    For something intimate I would look for a recording of early polyphony by the Hilliard Ensemble rather than a huge modern choir. The separate lines can remain audible, and the room feels like part of the composition instead of a grand wash placed behind it.

                                    I like hearing the breath and the small uneven edges. They make the old music feel inhabited.

                                  • #123
                                    Folklore
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                                      You might try Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares if the bright, crowded sound does not scare you away. It is not intimate in the same way as a small English choir, but the voices have these hard edges and open spaces that make “beautiful” feel a little dangerous.

                                      I also like hearing the breath and the almost-not-together moments. Perfect sound can make a choir feel like one giant object, and I want to hear the people inside it.

                                    • #2519
                                      Typecase
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                                        i keep coming back to the king’s singers on old arvo pärt discs for this exact reason. the voices feel like they are in the same room with you, not some distant gold dome, and it lets the quiet lines do the work. also some medieval stuff by the rose ensemble has that same small lantern feeling

                                        • #2520
                                          Record-Courier
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                                            yeah that lantern feeling is real

                                            a lot of pärt gets packaged as cosmic and giant but the best takes are basically one candle and a hallway

                                          • #2521
                                            Bug Report Fiction
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                                              that is mostly a recording choice, not a feature of Pärt himself.

                                              • #2532
                                                Record-Courier
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                                                  that close-mic feeling is half the magic for me, honestly. if the singers sound like humans instead of weather, i am in

                                              • #2522
                                                Fermenter
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                                                  that makes sense to me. if the voices are clean and the reverb is restrained, pärt can feel almost domestic, which is not a bad word here

                                                  more chapel than cinema

                                              • #99
                                                Afrobeat
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                                                  I sing in a church choir, and the giant cinematic recordings make me tired too. Try recordings where you can hear the breath and the little disagreements between voices.

                                                  Perfect is sometimes less moving than people sounding like they are actually standing in a room.

                                                • #106
                                                  Roomtone
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                                                    Smaller ensembles will help, but the recording venue matters more than the label choral. Look for a live acoustic that lets you hear the room rather than a close-mic blend.

                                                    If every consonant is polished into one surface, it will feel cinematic regardless of the repertoire.

                                                  • #2523
                                                    Bug Report Fiction
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                                                      The Tallis Scholars are often larger than the word intimate suggests. For smaller-scale listening, try the…

                                                      • #2530
                                                        Record-Courier
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                                                          clerks’ group is a good shout too, and way less shiny than a lot of people expect from the name

                                                          i think that helps when somebody wants voices instead of architecture

                                                      • #2527
                                                        Fermenter
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                                                          yep, intimate usually means fewer singers and less reverb in practice. not always, but…

                                                        • #2531
                                                          Bug Report Fiction
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                                                            If you want one concrete starting point, try Hilliard Ensemble, Officium. It is not sacred in the narrow sense, but the scale is exactly what you…

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